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Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:00 AM
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By Sara Gregory
Salisbury Post
Rowan County's state legislators have mixed feelings about Gov. Mike Easley's proposal to increase taxes on cigarettes and alcohol to raise teacher salaries and expand funding for mental health reform.
In his proposed state budget, Easley would increase teacher salaries by about 7 percent and asked legislators to approve a 20-cent-per-pack cigarette tax to fund the pay hike.
In all, Easley's plan would increase the state budget by $1 billion to $21.4 billion.
The governor's proposal on Monday wasn't what legislators were expecting, said N.C. Sen. Andrew Brock, R-Davie, who added that even the Democrats he's talked to were "shocked."
"The way they were just talking awhile ago, it seemed like they would throw out the budget and do our own," Brock said.
Rep. Lorene Coates, D-Rowan, echoed the sentiment that Easley's proposal wasn't what House legislators were expecting.
"I think it's at odds with the House somewhat," she said. "We might have the same long-range goal, but I think we've found a different way to get there."
Easley's recommendations are adjustments to the two-year budget passed last year. Legislators heard the changes when they reconvened Monday.
While the governor has proposed increasing teacher salaries by 7 percent, other state employees would receive a $1,000 bonus and a 1.5 percent cost-of-living adjustment that would increase salaries by about 4 percent. The discrepancy between the salary increases for teachers and other state employees has been pointed at as one problem with the budget proposal.
Coates said that while she isn't opposed to increasing teacher salaries, she isn't sure if the increases are fair to state employees.
"Seems like they always get the short end of the stick," she said.
Brock said he's already heard from many state employees who say they aren't happy with the budget proposal.
The public teacher pay increase is designed to raise those salaries to the national average.
The timing of governor's request could make it more difficult for the tax increases to pass.
"I don't see increasing the budget by a billion dollars in a time of economic slowdown," said Rep. Fred Steen, R-Rowan.
Although the state will end this fiscal year with a $152 million surplus, there are concerns about increasing the budget at the same time as many residents are cutting back.
"This is a time that we need to be tightening our belts," Coates said. "Everybody's having to do that now. At the state level we've got to do the same."
The state is feeling the same money crunch as transportation costs are rising with gas prices.
And many are against the idea of raising taxes in an election year. House Speaker Joe Hackney, D-Orange, told legislators he didn't anticipate any tax increases this year, Coates said.
"I don't see in an election year people getting excited about increasing any taxes," Steen said.
Easley might not have the political capital in the legislature to accomplish what he wants, Brock said.
"There's not a good working relationship with the governor," he said. "His support is very low.
"He knows how to get elected but when it comes to policy making, he's very, very weak."
Changes are expected before the final budget is approved.
"I think there will be significant changes between when the House and the Senate get through with it," Coates said. "We'll come together with a meeting of the minds."
And Brock said Republicans, who are a minority in both houses, will work to give input on the budget process. Senate Republicans are scheduled to meet today to discuss mental health reform.
What do you think? Post your comment below.
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A State Employee
Pay Increase : Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:52 AM
TEACHER'S ARE ALSO STATE EMPLOYEE AND WE ALL SHARE THE SAME RETIREMENT AND HEATH BENEFITS SO WHY NOT HAVE THE SAME PAY INCREASE. 70% OF STATE EMPLOYEE IN NC ARE NOT AT THE AVERAGE PAY FOR THERE JOB DUTIES. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN ME AND THEM IS THEY TEACH WITH THERE 7% AND I SAVE LIVES AND ONE DAY POSSIBLE THERE LIFE WITH MY 1.5%. SO WHY AM I NOT AS IMPORTANT AS A TEACHER. GO FIGURE1 MAKE THE LOTTERY MONEY WORK FOR TEACHERS AND THE SCHOOL BUDGETS.
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Anna Worrel
Easley's proposed budget, 'sin tax' increases Easley's proposed budget, 'sin tax' increases : Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:53 AM
I do agree that teachers should make more money, however I am in agreement that I thought this is what the education lottery was for, however charlotte mecklenburg is getting the majority of that money and my question is why? I also feel any type of tax increase at this point in the economy is bad, people are struggling enough with just trying to get to work due to gas prices, how about some relief in that area, we are one of the highest taxed states for gas. This will also cause people to buy in other counties as most people travel outside of rowan to work. So if we are going to give teachers a raise that is fine, however we need to be getting the money from the education lottery, that is what is was brought here for.
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disgruntled
Oh ok! : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:27 PM
I guess the cost of gas and everything else only goes up for educators. It's a good thing I am not a teacher or I might have a cost of living increase too! *phew*
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State employee
More money for the teachers : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:27 PM
I just have one question, if you give the teachers 100k per year will that make the test scores go up? Probably not more money isnt the answer because if it was the scores would be coming up which currently they are not last check they were at 70%. Why not give them individual incentives, for example, if your class shows a significant increase in test scores give that teacher a raise. The teachers that arent putting their best foot forward are getting the same raise as those that are busting their hump.
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Law officer
When is enough, enough? : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:19 PM
As a fellow state employee for the past 7 years teachers have gotten 5% pay raise each year. If my math serves me correctly that is a 35% pay raise in the last 7 years. Now this year it is 7%! The cost of living doesnt just go up for teachers it goes up for everybody. What about those of us that put our lives on the line each day to keep the community safe and you give me 1.5% you might as well have spit in my face AGAIN. Lets make it fair for everybody. I know my family would love it if I could be off in the summer but I cant because I work rotating shifts and just about every holiday. It is a shame that a large percentage of state employees have to work second jobs to make ends meet. To all the teachers out there the next time you see a law enforcement officer tell him thank you for the job you do keeping me safe all the while being away from your family.
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Lenore Brady
Aren't we all state employees? : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:12 PM
OK, someone please correct me if I am wrong. Aren't teachers state employees? So then WHY are they treated differently than the REST of the state employees? Is my job in public safety less important than the job of a teacher? They teach members of my community, and I help keep them and members of their community safe from harm. Perhaps someone just needs to explain this split that always leaves teachers on top when it comes to raises and such, because I can't figure it out.
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Redneck David in San Diego
Consumption Taxes Can Be Avoided : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:37 PM
Sorry to hear my past and future home state is having the same issues as California where all taxes are the highest on everything. Here's my two cents: It's better to have a consumption tax that can be avoided than to have an income tax. One exception: North Carolina's most unfair tax is the sales tax on food.
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Don
Rowan legislators uneasy about Easley's proposed budget, 'sin tax' increases : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:09 PM
I think everyone will agree that teachers deserve a competitive wage. Saying that we do live in a high tax state that spends and spends and comes up with new taxes and scams each year to fund their wasteful spending. A sin tax as they call it will over tax the lower income in our state its a fact that lower income will be more inclined to use tobacco and . A fair tax should be on bottled water whose bottles fill our land fills and cost so much to bottle and transport to the stores and land fills. But this would hit a higher income bracket of people. The government finds it easy to tell us to cut back and work and make ends meet but cant do it themselves.Ive never been able to give myself a raise before paying all my bills but our government does this year after year. All you have to do is look at our roads are they in good shape after all the road usage tax we pay at the pump each week? If the lottery was going to generate a surplus of funds where is it? What percentage raise did you get last year? what percentage raise did our governor get last year? Its stated teacher are moving here for jobs that they could not get in their home state and the wages are not as high here as their home state will higher taxes not cut in to any raise they will see? Isn't it better to be able to work than not? Just ask a mill worker. Its called a budget we all have to live with one with out the option of making a new tax to increase our income when milk ,gas, power goes up. Our state needs to live with in its means as well. the only thing new taxes do is open the door for more new taxes next year. Yes teachers need more pay but more tax isn't the answer.
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what about us? : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:40 PM
no offense to teachers, because they def. deserve what money they get, but should they overlook the other state employees? Be fair with your raises. If they want teachers up to national standard, thats great, but state employees are behind too, and we are in the bottom 10% in the nation on pay. Why cant they catch us up too.
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CHRISTINE CULP
TAXES RAISE TO GIVE GOVENMENT MORE MONEY : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:51 PM
IT IS SO WONDERFULL TO HEAR HOW MUCH OUR GOVENMENT CARE ABOUT IT'S EMPLOYEES. I WISH ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES WOULD DO THE SAME. WHEN TALKING WITH FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, COWORKERS, AND PEOPLE IN AND ABOUT TOWN I HEAR EVERYONE SAYING THE SAME THING ABOUT HOW MUCH IT'S COSTING TO GET TO WORK AND HOW LONG IT HAS BEEN SINCE THEY GOT A RAISE. SOME HAVE ONLY BEEN THREE YEARS TO FIVE BUT FOR MOST OF US IT HAS BEEN UP TO SEVEN GOING ON EIGHT YEARS NOW. WHILE EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND US KEEPS GOING UP AND UP. COMPANIES CLOSE PLANTS BECAUSE IT IS GOING OVERSEAS. COMPANIES ARE LAYING OFF OR DOWNSIZING. PRETTY SOON THE GOVENMENT CAN KEEP ALL OF US NON-GOVENMENT HARD WORKING SOULS UP. YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING "CAN'T GET BLOOD OUT OF A TURNIP". WELL GOVERNMENT, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! SOON THE CASH FLOW WILL BE STOPPING BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE ANYTHING WE OWN TO PAY FOR ALL YOUR WANTS. GOVERNMENT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO START THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP WELFARE GOING SINCE WE ALL WILL BE SOON APPLYING FOR SERVICE.
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Mike
: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:00 PM
I agree teachers do need more money.We have the lottery so there would not be big tax increases,I want to know when I'm going to get A decrease,because I pay tax every year to schools and I don't even have kids and at the end of the year I don't get it all back(because I don't have rug runners to write off)most of the time I have to pay.I want to know how people in my shoes gain anything from paying the tax now,let along having to pay higher tax!!?
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Juli ~ Salisbury
: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:29 AM
We already live in one of the highest taxed states in the whole country, our gas taxes are the highest, our "sin taxes" are among the highest, we are taxed on our vehicles at purchase and then EVERY YEAR thereafter. Our property taxes are through the roof. Why should the residents of North Carolina should be responsible for Easley's fiscal irresponsibility? We approved the lottery for education expenses. This is Easley's legacy ~ Taxation without Representation. WAKE UP NORTH CAROLINA!
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tina
: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:53 AM
i think as a local government employee we all should be under the same increases, the cost of living is going up and our paychecks are staying the same and we hear the same excuses every year about there's not enough money, but the top people always get their raises, and bonuses. it time to treat the one's that do the brunt force of the work to get some bonuses, and to stay on top of the cost of living increases every year
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JR
: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:21 AM
Is this the same governor who pushed hard for the "Education" Lottery. Where is all of that money going and why should we believe him now?
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HENRY
: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:16 AM
MORE MONEY, MORE MONEY!!!!! DO SOMEHTING ABOUT THE GAS
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HENRY
WHY DONT EASLEY USE THE LATTERY MONEY FOR TEACHERS : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:14 AM
WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF A LOTTERY? FOR EDUCATION . SO WHAT IS HE DOING WITH MONEY FROM THE LOTTERY. HE SHOULD GIVE TEACHERS THAT MONEY
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Eric Shock
North Carolina needs to compete to retain highly qualified educators : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:52 AM
Many teachers from "up north" move to North Carolina straight from college to take teaching positions. Why are they all coming to North Carolina? The answer is simple: they cannot find jobs back home. The reasons that new teachers cannot find jobs back home is because the pay is higher, and the jobs are more competitive. The education labor shortage in North Carolina means that new teachers can find a job much easier here. Some of these teachers move down here, fall in love with everything North Carolina has to offer, and end up staying. However, many more come to North Carolina with the plan of teaching for a few years, then using their experience as leverage to get the higher paying, more competitive job "back home." The end result is a revolving door of young teachers who use North Carolina as a stepping stone to a better paying job in their field. Don't believe me? Poll the faculty at your local school and ask "how many of you are from Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, or New York?" then ask "How many of you would be willing to move back home to take a teaching job that pays $10,000 more a year to start?" I think you'd be suprised at the number of highly qualified, high quality educators that would raise their hands to both questions. To keep those highly qualified, high quality educators in the state, they... we... must be compensated on a level equal to that of our colleagues. Local districts only have the power to offer a pittance of an incentive. It is the state government that holds the pursestrings - and the fate of education in North Carolina
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Teacher in RSS Schools
Go Easly : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:26 AM
Teachers need to be nearer to the national average or our turn over ratios will contine to go up. The house and senate need to get behind this so that their children and their grandchildren get the education they deserve.
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