In a series of conversations before Tuesday nights redistricting vote, school board
member Vick Bost pitched the proposal that would become the new school attendance plan.Bost says that he solicited votes for his plan before the
meeting. He says that he wasnt the only board member doing that. And he says that
nothing he did violated the states open meetings laws.
First and foremost, Ithink it does not
violate the letter of the law, nor the spirit ... just about all factions of the school
board were doing it,Bost said Thursday. I did seek votes, theres no
doubt about it, but I think at the same time the other side was seeking votes as
well.
Other school board members and attorneys agree
that if Bosts conversations were one-on-one with other board members, or even if
only three met or spoke at any one time, then no one broke any laws.
In North Carolina, if less than a majority of a
board meets in some form in person, by telephone to talk, even about the
publics business, the gathering is not required to be an open meeting.
But an attorney for the N.C. Press Association
says this sort of lobbying method is a way to skirt existing statutes by building a
majority before votes are cast in public. And she said it violates the spirit, if not the
letter, of the law.
That not only sidesteps the law, but it
deprives the public of seeing how policy is debated and set,said Amanda Martin, who
also represents the Salisbury Post and other newspapers. For that reason, I think
its bad public policy, even if it is legal.
Other states, including Florida, prohibit even two
members of a public body from deliberating the publics business in private. And in
others, including Louisiana, California and Michigan, courts have declared other methods
of gaining consensus out of the public eye illegal.
The quick adoption Tuesday of a school
redistricting plan left some on the Rowan-Salisbury Board of Education crying foul and
many in the public wondering how it came about.
The school board had labored over the issue for
weeks, had listened to public comment and was holding a work session to hear a revised
proposal from Superintendent Dr. Joe McCann.
Some suspect political skulduggery is behind the
4-3 vote that passed Bosts redistricting plan, patched together from pieces of other
proposals and options.
Some residents said the outcome seemed too
predetermined, the votes too lined up when Bost interrupted McCanns presentation to
offer his own.
Written on a yellow legal pad, Bosts plan
contained mostly what McCann had proposed in his two plans, but shifted several areas from
the first and second versions of McCanns plan.
Bost said he doesnt think another public
hearing was necessary, because the public had seen all the pieces of his plan, if not put
together as a whole.
After brief discussion and a few questions, the
board split, with L.A. Overcash, Clyde Miller and Dr. Ada Fisher siding with Jones. Dr.
Bettie Starr, Bruce Jones and Kay Norman opposed.
Bost said he painstakingly researched the issue
and during recent weeks spoke with every board member except Norman.
I had some clear sense that people shared
some opinions of mine, he said. I did not know ahead of time what to expect
from Dr. Fisher.
Frankly, I did not know with certainty that
my proposal would pass, be delayed, tabled or the administration would present another
proposal.
Bost had stated in earlier interviews his belief
that Granite Quarry should remain undivided and that subdivisions on N.C. 150 just west of
Salisbury should attend schools in the city.
He said that a section of the East district his
plan shifts to the North district, north of Bringle Ferry Road, is necessary to eliminate
overcrowding at Erwin Middle School.
I had discussions with others about that and
tried out that concept, said Bost, who last year made the motion that kept
elementary students in that area in the East district schools.
Starr said she doesnt think seeking votes or
privately discussing certain options with other board members violates the spirit of the
open meetings law.
Board members have conversations, and I
think that happens with some regularity, she said. I think one board member
talking to another ... doesnt violate the letter or the spirit.
But she is troubled by the way the vote seemed to
her to take shape.
Specifically, she pointed to the moment when Bost
was discussing shifting the East district students, elementary through high school, to the
North district.
All I know is that some board members knew
things I didnt know, she said. There was no mention of elementary
feeders in any proposal Ihad, but Mr. Miller immediately said But Ithought the
elementary students were going to Dole.
Some residents who attended the meeting Tuesday
said they believe that section was part of a deal, and one letter writer to the Post asked
if the area was payback for Millers vote.
Miller and Bost deny that. They say its
simply a matter of numbers.
I dont know what mix Clyde wanted or
would have done differently, Bost said. But he felt that North could handle
it.
Still, he said, after seeing McCanns latest
proposal, he came within an eyelash of supporting it, even though it left the
N.C. 150 subdivisions in the West district for high school.
However, after talking with school system
administrators and principals, Bost found he couldnt support the proposal. So he
went to work on his own plan and sought allies.
What every board member tries to do is seek
consensus, and I would have enjoyed having seven votes instead of just four, he
said. Other people share their views, and you try to build consensus.
Its all part of the political
process,all legal, he said. No chance meeting, not a get-together, not a
pow-wow of any type.
At the same time, he said, another school board
faction sought to build its own majority.
Frankly, Ive heard that Bettie Starr,
Bruce Jones and Kay Norman had kind of worked out their own proposal and that was to keep
the high schools ... as a separate proposal, he said. ... and they were
looking for another vote.
Bost accused Norman of heavy
politicking to save Summerfield, where she lives, from being shifted to the
Salisbury High district. He pointed to an earlier meeting when a Westcliffe parent accused
her of offering Westcliffe in Summerfields place.
Norman has denied that, and she said Friday she
took no part in any effort to build a majority. She submitted her own proposals to McCann,
and they would have been discussed Tuesday, but the meeting got away from the
superintendent when Bosts plan came up, she said.
I did have a call from Bruce Jones, and I
told him I had put my comments in writing to Dr. McCann, she said. There was
no thought in my mind that there would not be opportunity for public comment on this
plan.
School board attorney Don Sayers says board
members have the right to lobby each other.
I dont think its a violation of
open meetings law for someone to call and ask support for something,he said.
If Im a school board member and I want to get something passed, I can call one
of my fellow board members without violating the open meetings law.
Bob Joyce, assistant director of the Institute of
Government at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, agreed.
Its clearly not a violation of the
law,he said. In order to violate the open meetings law, there has to be a
meeting, and a meeting is defined as when a majority of them get together, either in
person, or by telephone, or other means.
Sayers and Joyce, who is also an attorney,
declined to say whether they thought lobbying privately for public votes violates the
spirit of open meetings law. Martin, who specializes in First Amendment issues, said she
believes it does.
The open meetings law was designed
not to pose technical, tricky hurdles for people to overcome but so the public
could see public business conducted publicly,she said. The public is concerned
not with the technicalities of the open meetings law, but with seeing policy worked
through by elected boards.
The courts have ruled on a case of polling by
telephone in this state. But in that case, a school board in Jacksonville conducted the
vote solely over the telephone and never in a public meeting. The N.C. Court of Appeals
ruled that violated the open meetings law.
Other states have taken stronger measures than
North Carolina to ensure that public boards dont do business behind closed doors.
Some dont require a majority be present to constitute a public meeting.
Florida has had a Government in the Sunshine
Lawsince the late 1960s. That law says that any meeting of two or more members of a
public body to discuss matters the board could act upon will be open to the public.
The Florida law also requires that reasonable
notice of the meeting be given to the public and that minutes are taken, whether the
meeting is formal or casual in nature. It applies to elected or appointed boards.
In effect, if two or more officials get
together to discuss anything that could come before them in their official capacity, they
are covered by the Sunshine Law, said Barbara Petersen, executive director of
Floridas First Amendment Foundation.
She said the law has been very
effective, although the states government officials complain about it
bitterly and our legislature basically tries to undo it.
The Florida Supreme Court has ruled that two board
members talking over the phone violates the law. An administrator, such as a city manager,
polling board members and relaying information is also illegal, she said.
The state deems the law so important that its
government amended the constitution in the early 1990s to guarantee Florida citizens
access to public meetings, Petersen said.
Thats because action taken at meetings is
the least important part, frequently, of an issue, she said.We have a
right ... to participate in the entire political process.
Other states are taking steps in that direction as
well, though not all of them with legislation.
Last year, in a case that went to the Louisiana
Supreme Court, a judge ruled that the Baton Rouge School Board violated that states
open meetings law by meeting in non-majority groups.
Members of the board met to discuss a
desegregation case in groups that didnt constitute a quorum but that allowed all the
board members to take part in the discussion.
Louisiana courts found that the school
boards meetings constituted a walking quorum, which occurs when a board
meets in small groups to avoid having a quorum.
Similarly, in Michigan, the court of appeals found
that two closed mini-meetings held by a city council with an attorney violated
that states law, though no quorum was present at either.
A California court also banned serial
communications, which refers to a series of non-quorum meetings held to conduct
public business out of the public eye.
Those meetings can be held one-on-one by
telephone, as was the case in California, where a local redevelopment agency used a series
of private telephone conversations each between an agency member and its attorney
to line up votes for public action.
A California appellate court ruled the agency
violated that states open meetings law, even though California law only requires
that a meeting be open if a quorum is present, like North Carolinas law.
Regardless of whats happening in other
states, none of the authorities on N.C. law contacted by the Post challenged
Rowan-Salisbury school board members legal right to privately seek votes, even to
build a majority before the meeting.
An attorney himself, Bost said theres no
doubt.
We all see things from a different
perspective, and when we agree, when four of us are able to agree, thats when law is
made, he said. I dont think its against the public interest or the
childrens interest.